Comments on: New Steve Harvey video on Larry King where he calls atheists “idiots”. http://www.isabigot.com/2009/06/new-steve-harvey-video-on-larry-king-where-he-calls-atheists-idiots/ Exposing bigots. Fri, 18 Nov 2011 14:51:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Hal B. http://www.isabigot.com/2009/06/new-steve-harvey-video-on-larry-king-where-he-calls-atheists-idiots/comment-page-2/#comment-782 Hal B. Fri, 21 Oct 2011 13:33:08 +0000 http://www.isabigot.com/?p=28#comment-782 So, if someone is an athiest, they have no "trustworthy or constant moral barometer". But if an athiest says "of course I do, I treat others the way I wish to be treated", then you think you get to claim this basic tenant of moral behavior as "defending Christian principles and values"? How pathetic is that? Especially when it's so laughably false! If you want to claim the golden rule as a "Christian principles", then I hope you're not out bashing anyone's right to love whom they choose or practicing any of the other "Christian principles" that fly directly in the face of the golden rule. Face it -- doing the right thing requires a knowledge of self, not made-up sky wizards. And if truly require a fear of a fictional afterlife to keep you in check from living only for yourself at the expense of everyone else, then please continue to delude yourself. So, if someone is an athiest, they have no “trustworthy or constant moral barometer”. But if an athiest says “of course I do, I treat others the way I wish to be treated”, then you think you get to claim this basic tenant of moral behavior as “defending Christian principles and values”? How pathetic is that? Especially when it’s so laughably false!

If you want to claim the golden rule as a “Christian principles”, then I hope you’re not out bashing anyone’s right to love whom they choose or practicing any of the other “Christian principles” that fly directly in the face of the golden rule.

Face it — doing the right thing requires a knowledge of self, not made-up sky wizards. And if truly require a fear of a fictional afterlife to keep you in check from living only for yourself at the expense of everyone else, then please continue to delude yourself.

]]> By: Yeshua the one http://www.isabigot.com/2009/06/new-steve-harvey-video-on-larry-king-where-he-calls-atheists-idiots/comment-page-2/#comment-781 Yeshua the one Fri, 14 Oct 2011 08:35:32 +0000 http://www.isabigot.com/?p=28#comment-781 And what do you say to someone who has tried as hard as they could for years, reading and rereading passages to keep their hopes up, trying to convince themself of a God, praying as hard as they could to have their faith proven? What do you say to someone who put all of their mind into finding this being and turning up unsuccessful for eight years? Who doubtlessly ignored the evidence that the other side holds in order to keep their faith in their deity? Who outright LIED for Jesus's sake, (as you have) by saying that there is no proof of evolution? One who's bubble of wishful thinking was broken when after over eight years the only people to answer him were the opposition, not his beloved God? I started out without a faith as my parents felt that it was my decision, I'm not going to give you my life's story, but I ended up in a Christian faith after a few years of searching. I read the bible, ignored most of the disgustingly horrid things in it, and prayed. At this point I WANTED to feel something, I WANTED this to work out, so I spent eight years in the faith without any indication of a god anywhere. I was living a lie but I didn't want to accept it. My mind was completely open to him, either he refused to join me, he didn't want me, or he didn't exist. The first two must have been wrong, because if he did exist, the bible states that if I open myself to him, he would accept me, right? Instead of outright giving up, I became more militant, debating atheists. All it did was confirm my fears. I had no reason to believe and had no one to back me up. No matter how many times I repeated Psalm 18:2, I quickly realized that this 'fortress' was built on a sandy foundation, it all came crumbling down, slowly but surely. So tell me, why not me? I hold no anger towards your deity, I have lost my belief, much like my loss of belief in Santa (I'm not saying they are the same thing, I'm saying that the feeling is the same). And what do you say to someone who has tried as hard as they could for years, reading and rereading passages to keep their hopes up, trying to convince themself of a God, praying as hard as they could to have their faith proven? What do you say to someone who put all of their mind into finding this being and turning up unsuccessful for eight years? Who doubtlessly ignored the evidence that the other side holds in order to keep their faith in their deity? Who outright LIED for Jesus’s sake, (as you have) by saying that there is no proof of evolution? One who’s bubble of wishful thinking was broken when after over eight years the only people to answer him were the opposition, not his beloved God?

I started out without a faith as my parents felt that it was my decision, I’m not going to give you my life’s story, but I ended up in a Christian faith after a few years of searching. I read the bible, ignored most of the disgustingly horrid things in it, and prayed. At this point I WANTED to feel something, I WANTED this to work out, so I spent eight years in the faith without any indication of a god anywhere. I was living a lie but I didn’t want to accept it. My mind was completely open to him, either he refused to join me, he didn’t want me, or he didn’t exist. The first two must have been wrong, because if he did exist, the bible states that if I open myself to him, he would accept me, right? Instead of outright giving up, I became more militant, debating atheists. All it did was confirm my fears. I had no reason to believe and had no one to back me up. No matter how many times I repeated Psalm 18:2, I quickly realized that this ‘fortress’ was built on a sandy foundation, it all came crumbling down, slowly but surely.

So tell me, why not me? I hold no anger towards your deity, I have lost my belief, much like my loss of belief in Santa (I’m not saying they are the same thing, I’m saying that the feeling is the same).

]]> By: Carly http://www.isabigot.com/2009/06/new-steve-harvey-video-on-larry-king-where-he-calls-atheists-idiots/comment-page-2/#comment-775 Carly Tue, 20 Sep 2011 02:13:34 +0000 http://www.isabigot.com/?p=28#comment-775 Please, go learn about evolution. If you want other people to learn about God, please take the time to learn about evolution. We do see evolution, all the time. That's why there isn't a cure for the common cold. It evolves so rapidly (because viruses, while they aren't living, have very short reproductive cycles) that we cannot become immune to it. We know the physiological basis for evolution. We know why it happens, and how. It is probably one of the BEST understood phenomena in all of modern science. Given the nature of genetics, evolution is an unavoidable outcome of natural selection. And for those of you who actually don't understand why the "why we still got monkeys??" thing is so incorrect, it is because humans did not evolve from any living species of monkey. We share a common ancestor which is now extinct. We share about 98% of our genetic makeup. Please, just go read about evolution on Wikipedia or something, you'll be amazed. It's beautiful. Please, go learn about evolution. If you want other people to learn about God, please take the time to learn about evolution.
We do see evolution, all the time. That’s why there isn’t a cure for the common cold. It evolves so rapidly (because viruses, while they aren’t living, have very short reproductive cycles) that we cannot become immune to it.
We know the physiological basis for evolution. We know why it happens, and how. It is probably one of the BEST understood phenomena in all of modern science. Given the nature of genetics, evolution is an unavoidable outcome of natural selection.

And for those of you who actually don’t understand why the “why we still got monkeys??” thing is so incorrect, it is because humans did not evolve from any living species of monkey. We share a common ancestor which is now extinct. We share about 98% of our genetic makeup. Please, just go read about evolution on Wikipedia or something, you’ll be amazed. It’s beautiful.

]]> By: Carly http://www.isabigot.com/2009/06/new-steve-harvey-video-on-larry-king-where-he-calls-atheists-idiots/comment-page-2/#comment-774 Carly Tue, 20 Sep 2011 01:57:32 +0000 http://www.isabigot.com/?p=28#comment-774 The moral barometer does not make sense. Acting in a certain way because a book taught you to do that is not being moral - it is being a sheep. Atheists have the wonderful opportunity to think about the world, to consider the way the would like it to be, to consider how they would like to treat other people and how they would like to be treated themselves, and then to act on that. It is harder, because it involves real thought. But when a thoughtful atheist makes a moral decision, they know why and can give good reasons for it. Not all atheists are good people, and there is a lot of unnecessary anti-Christian sentiment from many of them. The problem atheists in general have with Christians is exactly the attitude that Steve Harvey is professing here: atheists are immoral and stupid. Statistics show that atheists are generally better educated, but let's not get petty here. People of faith agree to commit themselves to an idea that not only ignores rationality, but in many ways, precludes it. They even sometimes agree to commit horrendous acts in the name of their faith. I am mainly bothered by two things: 1) that religion so often conflicts with new scientific discoveries promotes horrible misunderstandings of them (sometimes, thinking about how many people still deny evolution, I just want to cry) and 2) that religious people find this lack of critical thought in their lives something positive, something to be smug about. I'll say this. If I am ever shown a convincing argument for the existence of a personal God, I will accept that. We know almost nothing about the origins of the universe, and as unlikely as it seems, it is not inconceivable that it was designed. However, I know that no disproof of God would ever be enough to convince most people of faith, because they would never even listen. I think that says a lot. The moral barometer does not make sense. Acting in a certain way because a book taught you to do that is not being moral – it is being a sheep. Atheists have the wonderful opportunity to think about the world, to consider the way the would like it to be, to consider how they would like to treat other people and how they would like to be treated themselves, and then to act on that. It is harder, because it involves real thought. But when a thoughtful atheist makes a moral decision, they know why and can give good reasons for it.

Not all atheists are good people, and there is a lot of unnecessary anti-Christian sentiment from many of them. The problem atheists in general have with Christians is exactly the attitude that Steve Harvey is professing here: atheists are immoral and stupid. Statistics show that atheists are generally better educated, but let’s not get petty here. People of faith agree to commit themselves to an idea that not only ignores rationality, but in many ways, precludes it. They even sometimes agree to commit horrendous acts in the name of their faith. I am mainly bothered by two things: 1) that religion so often conflicts with new scientific discoveries promotes horrible misunderstandings of them (sometimes, thinking about how many people still deny evolution, I just want to cry) and 2) that religious people find this lack of critical thought in their lives something positive, something to be smug about.

I’ll say this. If I am ever shown a convincing argument for the existence of a personal God, I will accept that. We know almost nothing about the origins of the universe, and as unlikely as it seems, it is not inconceivable that it was designed.
However, I know that no disproof of God would ever be enough to convince most people of faith, because they would never even listen. I think that says a lot.

]]> By: Secular http://www.isabigot.com/2009/06/new-steve-harvey-video-on-larry-king-where-he-calls-atheists-idiots/comment-page-2/#comment-770 Secular Sat, 06 Aug 2011 18:57:27 +0000 http://www.isabigot.com/?p=28#comment-770 It's easy to claim atheists don't have a moral "barometer" when you can just claim that the golden rule is based on the christian God, when it's much much older and in nearly every culture that hasn't been Christianized. It’s easy to claim atheists don’t have a moral “barometer” when you can just claim that the golden rule is based on the christian God, when it’s much much older and in nearly every culture that hasn’t been Christianized.

]]> By: God is Awesome http://www.isabigot.com/2009/06/new-steve-harvey-video-on-larry-king-where-he-calls-atheists-idiots/comment-page-2/#comment-762 God is Awesome Thu, 23 Jun 2011 19:01:00 +0000 http://www.isabigot.com/?p=28#comment-762 Yes...People should really read the Bible AND get a complete and ACCURATE comprehension before they start picking out words from certain verses to speak on them... Yes…People should really read the Bible AND get a complete and ACCURATE comprehension before they start picking out words from certain verses to speak on them…

]]> By: God is Awesome http://www.isabigot.com/2009/06/new-steve-harvey-video-on-larry-king-where-he-calls-atheists-idiots/comment-page-2/#comment-761 God is Awesome Thu, 23 Jun 2011 18:58:12 +0000 http://www.isabigot.com/?p=28#comment-761 Exactly right @ GWG. I can't even begin to tell you how many times I've had to explain to non-believers this very thing. It might sound awful to them, but it was said to follow the laws of the land, and in many states here in USA, if you commit certain crimes, it is punishable by law, and that means for you to be killed, NOT murdered. That is one of many examples of that specific gripe non-believes have. Exactly right @ GWG. I can’t even begin to tell you how many times I’ve had to explain to non-believers this very thing. It might sound awful to them, but it was said to follow the laws of the land, and in many states here in USA, if you commit certain crimes, it is punishable by law, and that means for you to be killed, NOT murdered. That is one of many examples of that specific gripe non-believes have.

]]> By: God is Awesome http://www.isabigot.com/2009/06/new-steve-harvey-video-on-larry-king-where-he-calls-atheists-idiots/comment-page-2/#comment-760 God is Awesome Thu, 23 Jun 2011 18:53:10 +0000 http://www.isabigot.com/?p=28#comment-760 "The Golden Rule" is based off of what God wants all to do. So, in essence, you are defending Christian principles and values. Don't worry. Non-believers do this all of the time, so you are not alone. Accept Him before it's too late. God is waiting. He will forgive you for all of the wrong you have done in your life. Many people have been lied to by false prophets, which is something anyone who knows of God's word would know exists in the world, so anyone who has a problem with Christianity or any denomination that recognizes God as the creator of all things, Judge of all men, because of false prophets, they should ask God for help and "Lean not on your own understanding." Read The Word for yourself, so that when you enter into church buildings (the people are actually the church) and hear something slightly off, you will know when you are in the presence of a false prophet and when you a true prophet is speaking to His people... “The Golden Rule” is based off of what God wants all to do. So, in essence, you are defending Christian principles and values. Don’t worry. Non-believers do this all of the time, so you are not alone. Accept Him before it’s too late. God is waiting. He will forgive you for all of the wrong you have done in your life. Many people have been lied to by false prophets, which is something anyone who knows of God’s word would know exists in the world, so anyone who has a problem with Christianity or any denomination that recognizes God as the creator of all things, Judge of all men, because of false prophets, they should ask God for help and “Lean not on your own understanding.” Read The Word for yourself, so that when you enter into church buildings (the people are actually the church) and hear something slightly off, you will know when you are in the presence of a false prophet and when you a true prophet is speaking to His people…

]]> By: yogi http://www.isabigot.com/2009/06/new-steve-harvey-video-on-larry-king-where-he-calls-atheists-idiots/comment-page-2/#comment-750 yogi Thu, 19 May 2011 22:08:27 +0000 http://www.isabigot.com/?p=28#comment-750 "Why we still have wolves" was your statement. Dog's and Wolves are in the same family of animal not an act of evolution. I am a Christian and I am honestly wondering why there is so much hatred on this post. FACT 1... I can not prove to you that their is a God anymore then you can prove to me that there has been even 1 proven organism evolved from another organism. FACT 2... I can not prove to you that God created the heavens and the earth anymore then you can prove to me it all happened in a big bang. We believe in 2 different things. I wish we did not, but we do. Thats ok (for now, see the point at the bottom). Steve Harvey is trying to say that he is not interested in getting into discussions like the one going on in this post where an atheist points a finger at the bible and says God is bad because it is just an endless loop of arguing when an atheist is not trying to find God but just want to point out the flaws in believing in a God. Harvey also mentions morals. As a Christian my religions morals (which are seperate from my personal morals) are to God. I neither would rape or murder someone whether I was a Christian or not, that is a personal moral. And being a Christian does not stop someone from being a rapist or murderer because we are all born in sin with a sinful nature. Christian does not equal perfect. In fact, because God knew no one was going to be "good" enough to get to heaven he sent His son to die for us so we could have eternal life. These are MY beliefs, you do not have to agree with me. But, (This is the point I mentioned above). I have found a way to give you proof of God and the Bible. The Bible clearly states that ANYONE who TRULY looks for God WILL find Him. This is a very powerful statement. In it's context if you or I or any other person on the planet will take the time to honestly and genually look for God you will find it. I have used this on sever occassions and have yet to have ANYONE disprove this line in the Bible. So, if you are an Atheist (which alot of people confuse with people who do not understand that they are just mad at God) and REALLY WANT to know for sure, do me a favor, take a moment and Pray to God. Let Him know you are looking for Him according to His Word and ask Him to open your heart to find him. Open the Bible to the New Testament and begin to read. If it is confusing switch to a different version or read it again and try to find God in it. Give God a week or so to do what he does best, Love His Children and see what you think then. Feel free to reply if you genually do this, because you will be changed forever. ~ Much Love to All Yogi “Why we still have wolves” was your statement. Dog’s and Wolves are in the same family of animal not an act of evolution. I am a Christian and I am honestly wondering why there is so much hatred on this post.

FACT 1… I can not prove to you that their is a God anymore then you can prove to me that there has been even 1 proven organism evolved from another organism.

FACT 2… I can not prove to you that God created the heavens and the earth anymore then you can prove to me it all happened in a big bang.

We believe in 2 different things. I wish we did not, but we do. Thats ok (for now, see the point at the bottom).

Steve Harvey is trying to say that he is not interested in getting into discussions like the one going on in this post where an atheist points a finger at the bible and says God is bad because it is just an endless loop of arguing when an atheist is not trying to find God but just want to point out the flaws in believing in a God. Harvey also mentions morals. As a Christian my religions morals (which are seperate from my personal morals) are to God. I neither would rape or murder someone whether I was a Christian or not, that is a personal moral. And being a Christian does not stop someone from being a rapist or murderer because we are all born in sin with a sinful nature. Christian does not equal perfect. In fact, because God knew no one was going to be “good” enough to get to heaven he sent His son to die for us so we could have eternal life.

These are MY beliefs, you do not have to agree with me. But, (This is the point I mentioned above). I have found a way to give you proof of God and the Bible.

The Bible clearly states that ANYONE who TRULY looks for God WILL find Him. This is a very powerful statement. In it’s context if you or I or any other person on the planet will take the time to honestly and genually look for God you will find it.

I have used this on sever occassions and have yet to have ANYONE disprove this line in the Bible.

So, if you are an Atheist (which alot of people confuse with people who do not understand that they are just mad at God) and REALLY WANT to know for sure, do me a favor, take a moment and Pray to God.

Let Him know you are looking for Him according to His Word and ask Him to open your heart to find him. Open the Bible to the New Testament and begin to read. If it is confusing switch to a different version or read it again and try to find God in it.

Give God a week or so to do what he does best, Love His Children and see what you think then.

Feel free to reply if you genually do this, because you will be changed forever.

~ Much Love to All

Yogi

]]> By: Terry http://www.isabigot.com/2009/06/new-steve-harvey-video-on-larry-king-where-he-calls-atheists-idiots/comment-page-2/#comment-740 Terry Mon, 28 Mar 2011 02:33:00 +0000 http://www.isabigot.com/?p=28#comment-740 Since there is no devil, no heavy metal band has sold their souls to the devil. Not to mention there is no evidence of a "soul" either. Since there is no devil, no heavy metal band has sold their souls to the devil. Not to mention there is no evidence of a “soul” either.

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