New Steve Harvey video on Larry King where he calls atheists “idiots”.

Thu, Jun 11, 2009


Steve Harvey has continued his assault on atheism while promoting his new book Act Like a Lady, Think Like a Man. During his appearance on the Larry King show, he reiterated his claim that atheists have no moral barometer, but then went further, calling atheists “idiots”, and said if he finds out someone is an atheist, “I just walk away.”

Steve went on to ridicule non-theistic ideas about the origin of the universe, saying “you just can’t tell me this spun out of a gastreous[sic] ball.” He then offered this scathing indictment of the theory of evolution: “all of a sudden then we were evolved from monkeys – why we still got monkeys?”

If anyone has stumbled across Steve’s book, we’d be keen to follow up on the passages where he apparently recommends women stay away from atheists.


JB: … making people laugh is a great thing…

SH: It’s a… it’s an amazing blessing from God, it really is.

JB: … which reminds me, speaking of God. You say in the book that, uh, you wouldn’t go out with a woman… I guess a woman should not go out with a man who doesn’t believe in God.

SH: Nah, I mean why would you?

JB: Well… well, do you believe that only people who are religious are ethical and moral?

SH: No, I just believe that if you don’t believe in God, then where’s your moral barometer? That’s just me talking…

JB: … I understand you, yeah…

SH: … you can believe what you want to believe, but if you’re an atheist you’re basing your goodness and morality on what? I mean, but what is an atheist? I don’t… I don’t really get into that. You know why? I’ve talked to people all the time– “I’m an atheist!”—I just walk away. I don’t know what to say to you, you know?

JB: Well, an atheist is someone who doesn’t quite believe in… that there is somebody out there… some “God” out there.

SH: Well, then to me you’re an idiot…

JB: Okay, well…

SH: … so I’m cool with that—

JB: But—

SH: I’m, I’m just–

JB: –that’s fine–

SH: –probably not the right ‘politically correct’–

JB: –Nonono–

SH: –thing to say, but if you don’t believe in God, then really you’ve got to have an explanation for this, and you just can’t tell me this spun out of a gastreous ball–

JB: Yeah.

SH: –then all of a sudden then we were evolved from monkeys—why we still got monkeys? There’s too much open here. I just believe that, and if you don’t believe that, then I don’t like talking to you.

JB: I see, okay. Listen—listen—it’s fine with me—

SH: Can you say it on ol’ Larry King?

JB: You can say it on any show–

SH: Okay, okay, okay…

JB: ‘Cause it’s a free country, thank goodness.

SH: It is.

124 Responses to “New Steve Harvey video on Larry King where he calls atheists “idiots”.”

  1. James Says:

    Stupid nigger.

    Oh wait, that’s offensive. But why should I restrain when that guy is also saying offensive stuff at atheists?


  2. Aina Says:

    @James right above me:

    Just wondering … How do you explain that comment to a black atheist such as myself?

    Don’t try to fight bigotry with bigotry, hon’. You lose all your credibility.


  3. MK Says:

    To be a Christian takes “Faith”. Thats why it is called a “faith based religion”
    Lets say you are right and that there is no God. What happens to me when I die… Nothing I just die.
    Ok, now lets say I am right and God does exist. What happens to you?


    • OneHappyAtheist Says:

      That’s call Pascal’s Wager, and is faulty logic.

      When I die nothing has to “happen” to me other than the natural occurrences that happen to dead bodies. I can live a moral and ethical life without any need to attribute it to a deity, and I don’t need to base my morals and ethics on any text that has within it questionable morals, especially by today’s standards. (Those ten commandments Christians talk about? Yeah, how many of those actually have anything “moral” in them? Not having other gods before this deity? Really? That’s “moral”? Sounds a bit like jealousy to me.)


      • RAHenderson Says:

        Wow. The bible said the’d be people like you. Clueless. Scientists that don’t believe in God say that the soul and spirit are eternal and don’t really die. why shouldn’t God be immortal. You also need to be educated. Nothing negative like hate, strife, non-existence or nothingness and such can even be defined or exists unless their first exist a positive like love, peace, existence, and something, first. The lake of Fire that impossible thing that the bible God makes to torment non-believers forever(conscious and in-destru”The angry eye of God” on ebooks.


    • Marnie Says:

      MK, your statement presumes there is either your god or no god, but in truth, there have been countless gods in human history, recorded or otherwise. If you presume that believing in a god is a gamble then you also have to throw all those other gods into the pot. Since the christian god has rules against believing in other gods you’re immediately in a quandary.

      Further, the idea that believing is a lifestyle choice — like telling an atheist to just believe so they can score that sweet deal on an afterlife — is probably not going to fly if there really is a god. You can’t just decide to believe something for which you don’t feel there is sufficient evidence and presumably, any omniscient god would know if you were believing for insincere reasons.

      So actually, the question really isn’t as cut and dry as you present it to be.


      • RAHenderson Says:

        There is a ton of evidence for the bible God and very little for these other so-called gods. You haven’t studied either of these have you? Open a bible or do a little research in these other religions . only Jehovah claims to be Eternal with no end or beginning. omnipotent,omnipresent and omnipotent. he promises that He made everything that exist. He knows every star by name. Look at His DNA he placed in your body. Scientists say that the information in a pin head amount of DNA would fill enough books to reach from earth to the moon 500 times. Any time something intelligent is a little more advanced then us people call it a god. Those don’t compare to jehovah. But you don’t even look into it and you’re teaching other people ? You won’t live much more than 80 years – FACT. There’s and eternal created being (the Devil) that feeds lying information to your brain daily and you believe it (whether you believe he exist or not). He hates you. This eternal God says he loves you. Duuh! you will live forever after death (scientists say this now). where will you go. There’s only two places – with God or a super massive black hole in the center of the milky Wy (God’s Lake of Fire) – FACT. I think you should stop trying to sound intellectual and do some research before your times.


    • Frost Says:

      Ok so lets say God exists, And I don’t believe in God. Im a good person, I donate, I help others, I respect others etc..I die, where do I go? Would you say hell? If God existed I doubt it very much he would let that happen to me. Is he not suppose to forgive us for our sins and all that? He would let me in haven. Either way theres its no proof he exisits or haven exisits. Nobody has raised from the dead to prove it or anything. God did not makes us, man made God. It just helps you sleep better at night. And how come there are so many different relegions? Are you going to tell me their beliefs are wrong? Well , well look at you you non beliver. 😉


  4. MK Says:

    To be a Christian takes “Faith”. Thats why it is called a “faith based religion”
    Lets say as an atheist you are right and that there is no God. What happens to me when I die… Nothing I just die.
    Ok, now lets say as a Christian I am right and God does exist. What happens to you?


    • Cisco Says:

      So I’m guessing if I were to offer you an option that seemed more rewarding than eternal life in Heaven you’d simply change your religous beliefs?

      People who take Pascal’s Wager seriously are indeed the most insincere and dishonest idiots of the lot. Surely if a benevolent deity did exist he would reward those who seek him through an honest understanding; and damn those who believe in him out of fear of losing a bet.


  5. I'm A Bigot Says:

    It seems like, you guys aren’t atheists but rather anti-christain, thus bigots of a different nature. If being a Christain means I’m a bigot then I’m proud to be one.


  6. happy Says:

    The barometer thing makes sense. He’s not saying an atheist has no morals. He’s asking for a trustworthy or constant standard to base moral decisions on -something atheism cannot provide, full stop. And what we have seen in the comments so far is the typical knee jerk reaction to this criticism, which says, “well, your holy book contains some pretty questionable ethics too, bozo.” My response is that I’m willing to defend it as soon as you bone up and admit that atheism gives no objective standard of morality. If you can’t admit that sickeningly plain truth, then there is no point in continuing.

    I think the problem with most atheists is not that they’re idiots or that they lack the mental capacity to see that there is a God (even though plenty are idiots). Their problem is a sniveling contempt for truth in preference for their way, their world, their lifestyle, their…


    • admin Says:

      Their? THEIR?!?!?! I HAVE TO KNOW!!!


    • RoBeast Rollie Says:

      You want a trustworthy or constant standard to base moral decisions on? How about the Golden Rule? Ethics of reciprocity aren’t that different then whatever Steve Harvey probably claims to believe in.


      • God is Awesome Says:

        “The Golden Rule” is based off of what God wants all to do. So, in essence, you are defending Christian principles and values. Don’t worry. Non-believers do this all of the time, so you are not alone. Accept Him before it’s too late. God is waiting. He will forgive you for all of the wrong you have done in your life. Many people have been lied to by false prophets, which is something anyone who knows of God’s word would know exists in the world, so anyone who has a problem with Christianity or any denomination that recognizes God as the creator of all things, Judge of all men, because of false prophets, they should ask God for help and “Lean not on your own understanding.” Read The Word for yourself, so that when you enter into church buildings (the people are actually the church) and hear something slightly off, you will know when you are in the presence of a false prophet and when you a true prophet is speaking to His people…


        • Secular Says:

          It’s easy to claim atheists don’t have a moral “barometer” when you can just claim that the golden rule is based on the christian God, when it’s much much older and in nearly every culture that hasn’t been Christianized.


        • Hal B. Says:

          So, if someone is an athiest, they have no “trustworthy or constant moral barometer”. But if an athiest says “of course I do, I treat others the way I wish to be treated”, then you think you get to claim this basic tenant of moral behavior as “defending Christian principles and values”? How pathetic is that? Especially when it’s so laughably false!

          If you want to claim the golden rule as a “Christian principles”, then I hope you’re not out bashing anyone’s right to love whom they choose or practicing any of the other “Christian principles” that fly directly in the face of the golden rule.

          Face it — doing the right thing requires a knowledge of self, not made-up sky wizards. And if truly require a fear of a fictional afterlife to keep you in check from living only for yourself at the expense of everyone else, then please continue to delude yourself.


    • Freethought Gal Says:

      The Bible has no objective standard of morality. It is constantly contradictory on many subjects we bring up morality in, such as murder. God tells you not to kill, but there are several passages where murder is committed and justified by God. You are taking your morals from a murderer. And take a good look at Christian history, and you tell me how “moral” your ancestors were when it came to slaughtering and conquering in the name of God.

      Atheism doesn’t have to provide a standard of morality, because it’s not a religion with a specific text to follow. It’s simply a lack of belief in a higher power. The individual atheist can take his or her morals from philosophy and secular ethic systems.


      • Christian FTW Says:

        There’s a difference between a murder and a killing. Just think of it like this.

        If there’s an Evil there has to be a Good.

        Look at it this way; Our lives are based on Good and evil . Music for instance . How many heavy metal Rock bands can you list that hasnt sold there souls to the devil for fame?
        Music has a huge impact on our daily lives, and the devil feel like he can reach majority of the world in music . You do the math Buddy


        • Terry Says:

          Since there is no devil, no heavy metal band has sold their souls to the devil. Not to mention there is no evidence of a “soul” either.


    • MRDA Says:

      “Their problem is a sniveling contempt for truth in preference for their way, their world, their lifestyle, their…”

      Project much?


    • Carly Says:

      The moral barometer does not make sense. Acting in a certain way because a book taught you to do that is not being moral – it is being a sheep. Atheists have the wonderful opportunity to think about the world, to consider the way the would like it to be, to consider how they would like to treat other people and how they would like to be treated themselves, and then to act on that. It is harder, because it involves real thought. But when a thoughtful atheist makes a moral decision, they know why and can give good reasons for it.

      Not all atheists are good people, and there is a lot of unnecessary anti-Christian sentiment from many of them. The problem atheists in general have with Christians is exactly the attitude that Steve Harvey is professing here: atheists are immoral and stupid. Statistics show that atheists are generally better educated, but let’s not get petty here. People of faith agree to commit themselves to an idea that not only ignores rationality, but in many ways, precludes it. They even sometimes agree to commit horrendous acts in the name of their faith. I am mainly bothered by two things: 1) that religion so often conflicts with new scientific discoveries promotes horrible misunderstandings of them (sometimes, thinking about how many people still deny evolution, I just want to cry) and 2) that religious people find this lack of critical thought in their lives something positive, something to be smug about.

      I’ll say this. If I am ever shown a convincing argument for the existence of a personal God, I will accept that. We know almost nothing about the origins of the universe, and as unlikely as it seems, it is not inconceivable that it was designed.
      However, I know that no disproof of God would ever be enough to convince most people of faith, because they would never even listen. I think that says a lot.


    • William Carr Says:

      @Happy: “He’s not saying an atheist has no morals. He’s asking for a trustworthy or constant standard to base moral decisions on -something atheism cannot provide, full stop.”

      Uh, ever hear of something called “Humanism” ?

      No ?

      Ignorance isn’t much of an excuse.


    • dude Says:

      You don’t need to believe in God to know what is right and wrong. Obviously killing is wrong. Abusing children is wrong, etc, etc. God and religion is a way to keep superstitious people under control. If you want to believe that some dude sitting on a cloud is in charge of all creation, fine, but I would be skeptical of such thinking


  7. Go With God Says:

    Free Thought Gal,

    You say that Christians are taking their morals from a murderer. But that is simply not true.

    You have to define murder before you can attach that title to God.

    Murder is, according to the American Heritage Dictionary:

    – The unlawful killing of one human by another, especially with
    premeditated malice.

    – To kill brutally or inhumanly.

    Now, if you wish to break it down in its simplest terms, murder is trying to get revenge, to kill someone out of anger, to seek to gain something by that person’s death, or to simply kill for fun.

    When God orders someone to kill, He does so in the context of…killing.

    Killing is defined as:

    – To put to death.
    – To deprive of life

    You see, killing another human being is acceptable in certain circumstances in the Bible.

    Circumstances such as:

    – Self Defense
    – Times of War
    – Punishment for a crime
    – Judgment from God

    These are all in total and complete agreement with the teachings of the Bible. And these circumstances are also morally and ethically sound.

    Also, these acts are examples of justice. When God orders the killing of a human being, He does so as the universal standard of evil and good. If something does not measure up to His perfection, it is called sin. So when God judges a person, He does it like a judge rendering a verdict.

    However, God is not a God of war. If anything, He is a God of Peace. But He is not a coward and He will not back down when good is threatened by evil.

    He gives us parameters on this area of killing in the Bible.

    I hope this has made sense to you and I hope it also presents a clearer picture of the God of the Bible.

    In Christ,


    • Sanity Jane Says:

      *sigh* Who better to kill “inhumanly” than a deity who is not human?

      Seriously, hair-splitter GWG, your god is claimed to be the omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent creator of the universe, right? You say he’s not a coward (roflmao! what would he have to fear anyway?). So why would an uncowardly, omnipotent, omnibenevolent deity direct mere humans to do so much of his dirty work for him, including slaughtering innocents? He could just selectively and humanely poof bad people out of existence or cause some “accident” to befall them (like the reclosing of the Reed [not Red] Sea on the Egyptian army) instead of ordering “his” people to dash defenseless infants to pieces and rip open pregnant women.

      Yaweh may not be a “murderer” by your definition, but the Old Testament leaves absolutely no doubt that he’s a brutal child killer and forcible abortionist – how can any civilized human being possibly justify that? The Geneva Convention prohibits such barbarity – how is it that we humans are more moral and ethical that the deity that supposedly handed down our morals and ethics?

      Oh, sure, you can say “He’s God – His Will Be Done” or buck-passing blah-blah to that effect, but what kind of person would make excuses for, much less worship, a deity whose behavior is no better than that of human dictators like Caligula, Vlad “The Impaler” Ţepeş, or Idi Amin? “God of Peace” – HA!

      It’s disappointing when someone who professes to understand what the Bible teaches is so oblivious of its actual content (as well as the centuries of theological debate thereon), but that’s the Dunning-Kruger Effect for you.


    • Dick Van Jesusballs Says:

      Your god is a god of war/fire/volcanos. Your god is taken from the polytheistic Hebrew faith that predated monotheistic Judaism, which predated Christianity. Idiot.

      According to the bible, your god is also an adulterer and as such should have been put to death.


    • God is Awesome Says:

      Exactly right @ GWG. I can’t even begin to tell you how many times I’ve had to explain to non-believers this very thing. It might sound awful to them, but it was said to follow the laws of the land, and in many states here in USA, if you commit certain crimes, it is punishable by law, and that means for you to be killed, NOT murdered. That is one of many examples of that specific gripe non-believes have.


  8. Ben Says:

    To directly address the 6th-grade, Sunday-school moral barometer position:

    The innumerable divergences of morals both in concept and in practice among populations with a religion (and therefore a moral barometer) indicates, perhaps, that we made the whole thing up in the first place.

    That on the whole, across populations and generations, there are common moral tenets, indicates biology at least, and an evolved biology at best.

    Posit: if there are no people, there are no morals. Start there, then work forward.


  9. Ben Says:

    I suppose I should elaborate on my point #1:
    If a deity is required for some universal moral constant, then the issue becomes muddled. Which deity? Which religion of that deity?

    I suppose Mr. Harvey should have chosen a different metaphor. Barometers the world over are beholden to the apparent physical constants. Morals lack such a beautifully simple and unifying framework.


    • Homer Says:

      Steve Harvey is a bigot only if ignorance can be the primary cause of bigotry. Hold the phone, that’s the number one cause. I do enjoy his repeated interviews linking God to morality. To this I have three immediate thoughts. The first is how presumptuous he is in believing that an inclination towards a higher power will somehow create a higher moral standard. I suppose he has never sought out the rapists and murders that are fine Christians. Perhaps he should police his own people before branching out to attack others viewpoints. Secondly, Mr. Harvey seems to be unaware that an alternate way to learn about morality is through family values and education (and that those things are not mutually inclusive with religion). God forbid someone teaches me that it isn’t right to rape and murder people. Lastly, Mr. Harvey assumes that people are inherently evil and anti-morality. I do not rape and murder people because I don’t want to. I’ve never wanted to. I’m not too lazy too. I know I could probably get away with it. I don’t even refrain for fear of the wrath of god, the police, societal outcast. I’m just nice and like being nice to other people. I’ve also found that being nice to people generally gets a similar response. I might be more open to listening to what you have to offer if you weren’t calling me an idiot, Steve.

      Mr. Harvey, if you are so weak that you need to either love, fear, or worship a monotheistic wrathful God to keep you from harming others and make you a charitable person, then I WANT you to believe in God. It doesn’t make you an idiot, but it does make you weak. Heaven forbid you use your faith and start using your accrued wealth and fame to start killing and raping Atheists and alternative worshippers across the land (see the Crusades).

      But we would see that coming. First you would start going on tv and telling people how they are bad and dumb and generally lesser people not worth talking to if they don’t share your beliefs… wait a minute….


  10. Kadeem Says:

    People really should read the Bible before they come to conclusions about rather or not it is a/the source of morality. In it God enables and orders many atrocities including murder and rape. Here is an example.
    (Judges 21:10-24 NLT)

    So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children. “This is what you are to do,” they said. “Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin.” Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found four hundred young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh in the land of Canaan.

    The Israelite assembly sent a peace delegation to the little remnant of Benjamin who were living at the rock of Rimmon. Then the men of Benjamin returned to their homes, and the four hundred women of Jabesh-gilead who were spared were given to them as wives. But there were not enough women for all of them. The people felt sorry for Benjamin because the LORD had left this gap in the tribes of Israel. So the Israelite leaders asked, “How can we find wives for the few who remain, since all the women of the tribe of Benjamin are dead? There must be heirs for the survivors so that an entire tribe of Israel will not be lost forever. But we cannot give them our own daughters in marriage because we have sworn with a solemn oath that anyone who does this will fall under God’s curse.”

    Then they thought of the annual festival of the LORD held in Shiloh, between Lebonah and Bethel, along the east side of the road that goes from Bethel to Shechem. They told the men of Benjamin who still needed wives, “Go and hide in the vineyards. When the women of Shiloh come out for their dances, rush out from the vineyards, and each of you can take one of them home to be your wife! And when their fathers and brothers come to us in protest, we will tell them, ‘Please be understanding. Let them have your daughters, for we didn’t find enough wives for them when we destroyed Jabesh-gilead. And you are not guilty of breaking the vow since you did not give your daughters in marriage to them.'” So the men of Benjamin did as they were told. They kidnapped the women who took part in the celebration and carried them off to the land of their own inheritance. Then they rebuilt their towns and lived in them. So the assembly of Israel departed by tribes and families, and they returned to their own homes.


    • mike Says:

      In this Bible passage, this killing is not justified by God. At the very end it says “In those days there was no king in Isreal, Everyone did what was right IN HIS OWN EYES”.


    • God is Awesome Says:

      Yes…People should really read the Bible AND get a complete and ACCURATE comprehension before they start picking out words from certain verses to speak on them…


  11. octavia324 Says:

    Secular Humanism, go look it up. End of story. Yes, Steve Harvey is ignorant.


  12. Anarimus Says:

    Harvey isn’t only a complete moron he’s also an incredibly boring game show host.


  13. plortho Says:

    “then ALL OF A SUDDEN then we were evolved from monkeys— WHY WE STILL GOT MONKEYS?” *bwahahahahaaa*

    Steve, you’re a GENIUS!! Millions of years indeed constitute a “sudden” event!

    Try this one on:
    You’re tellin” me dogs were evolved from wolves?! WHY WE STILL GOT WOLVES?

    Oh, brother…


    • yogi Says:

      “Why we still have wolves” was your statement. Dog’s and Wolves are in the same family of animal not an act of evolution. I am a Christian and I am honestly wondering why there is so much hatred on this post.

      FACT 1… I can not prove to you that their is a God anymore then you can prove to me that there has been even 1 proven organism evolved from another organism.

      FACT 2… I can not prove to you that God created the heavens and the earth anymore then you can prove to me it all happened in a big bang.

      We believe in 2 different things. I wish we did not, but we do. Thats ok (for now, see the point at the bottom).

      Steve Harvey is trying to say that he is not interested in getting into discussions like the one going on in this post where an atheist points a finger at the bible and says God is bad because it is just an endless loop of arguing when an atheist is not trying to find God but just want to point out the flaws in believing in a God. Harvey also mentions morals. As a Christian my religions morals (which are seperate from my personal morals) are to God. I neither would rape or murder someone whether I was a Christian or not, that is a personal moral. And being a Christian does not stop someone from being a rapist or murderer because we are all born in sin with a sinful nature. Christian does not equal perfect. In fact, because God knew no one was going to be “good” enough to get to heaven he sent His son to die for us so we could have eternal life.

      These are MY beliefs, you do not have to agree with me. But, (This is the point I mentioned above). I have found a way to give you proof of God and the Bible.

      The Bible clearly states that ANYONE who TRULY looks for God WILL find Him. This is a very powerful statement. In it’s context if you or I or any other person on the planet will take the time to honestly and genually look for God you will find it.

      I have used this on sever occassions and have yet to have ANYONE disprove this line in the Bible.

      So, if you are an Atheist (which alot of people confuse with people who do not understand that they are just mad at God) and REALLY WANT to know for sure, do me a favor, take a moment and Pray to God.

      Let Him know you are looking for Him according to His Word and ask Him to open your heart to find him. Open the Bible to the New Testament and begin to read. If it is confusing switch to a different version or read it again and try to find God in it.

      Give God a week or so to do what he does best, Love His Children and see what you think then.

      Feel free to reply if you genually do this, because you will be changed forever.

      ~ Much Love to All



      • Carly Says:

        Please, go learn about evolution. If you want other people to learn about God, please take the time to learn about evolution.
        We do see evolution, all the time. That’s why there isn’t a cure for the common cold. It evolves so rapidly (because viruses, while they aren’t living, have very short reproductive cycles) that we cannot become immune to it.
        We know the physiological basis for evolution. We know why it happens, and how. It is probably one of the BEST understood phenomena in all of modern science. Given the nature of genetics, evolution is an unavoidable outcome of natural selection.

        And for those of you who actually don’t understand why the “why we still got monkeys??” thing is so incorrect, it is because humans did not evolve from any living species of monkey. We share a common ancestor which is now extinct. We share about 98% of our genetic makeup. Please, just go read about evolution on Wikipedia or something, you’ll be amazed. It’s beautiful.


      • Yeshua the one Says:

        And what do you say to someone who has tried as hard as they could for years, reading and rereading passages to keep their hopes up, trying to convince themself of a God, praying as hard as they could to have their faith proven? What do you say to someone who put all of their mind into finding this being and turning up unsuccessful for eight years? Who doubtlessly ignored the evidence that the other side holds in order to keep their faith in their deity? Who outright LIED for Jesus’s sake, (as you have) by saying that there is no proof of evolution? One who’s bubble of wishful thinking was broken when after over eight years the only people to answer him were the opposition, not his beloved God?

        I started out without a faith as my parents felt that it was my decision, I’m not going to give you my life’s story, but I ended up in a Christian faith after a few years of searching. I read the bible, ignored most of the disgustingly horrid things in it, and prayed. At this point I WANTED to feel something, I WANTED this to work out, so I spent eight years in the faith without any indication of a god anywhere. I was living a lie but I didn’t want to accept it. My mind was completely open to him, either he refused to join me, he didn’t want me, or he didn’t exist. The first two must have been wrong, because if he did exist, the bible states that if I open myself to him, he would accept me, right? Instead of outright giving up, I became more militant, debating atheists. All it did was confirm my fears. I had no reason to believe and had no one to back me up. No matter how many times I repeated Psalm 18:2, I quickly realized that this ‘fortress’ was built on a sandy foundation, it all came crumbling down, slowly but surely.

        So tell me, why not me? I hold no anger towards your deity, I have lost my belief, much like my loss of belief in Santa (I’m not saying they are the same thing, I’m saying that the feeling is the same).


  14. S-Knight Says:

    “Why we still got monkeys?”

    Hahaha what an absolute moron.


  15. D-Mart Says:

    As an atheist, I can say morality does not need to come from a belief of a higher being or a supernatural phenomena. The reason I can believe this is, because every person has a sense of what is right or wrong, those that don’t are mentally unstable, not spiritually unstable.

    As an atheist, I have helped the poor, the sick, and the needy. I have helped provide ethical and humane treatment to animals, and stood for animal rights. I have protested and work to see more human rights, such as gay marriage. I have demanded from my local government harsher punishment for child abusers and pedophiles. I have fought for better health care for all people. I have done all this and much more without the belief in a god. I do this simply for the sake of doing good, and not out of fear of being dammed.

    As an atheist I do good deeds simply because I know that it’s the right thing to do. I don’t steal, I don’t cheat, I don’t murder, not because a god tells me it’s wrong, but because I know its wrong. Science has taught me that life is wonderful and beautiful. Science and education has taught me that cheating and stealing never produces good results. My family raised me to be a good man, because they instilled the belief in me that we should all strive to make the world better. Science has verified this point, as many scientist today strive to find cures, develop cleaner energy, produce better/safer food, and many other things.

    We don’t need a fear of god or hell to do these good things. We only need to believe that we can do better, and that we should always strive to be the best person we can be.


    • David Says:

      You’re still going to Hell as an atheist. Satan really has you feeling comfy with your self-righteousness.


      • William Carr Says:


        Silly, Atheists don’t go to Hell. They go a plane of pure logic where they sit around laughing about those silly people that believe in Hell.



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